Minutes of the Bairns Trust
Monday 16th January 2006
at the Falkirk Stadium
S Jackson, W Sommerville, W Anderson, B Guthrie, P Jack, F Caldwell,
M McIntyre, J Gardiner, S Monfries, S Williamson, J Black, M Fraser,
G Forster and J Dick
S Adam, S Bird, S Wilson, J Williamson.
Steven Jackson welcomed everyone to the meeting and wished all
members a Happy New Year..
Minutes of Previous Meeting
Had been published on the website and were circulated. Adoption
of the minutes was proposed by J Gardiner and seconded by M McIntyre.
- Fergus Caldwell, being unconvinced by the arguments of Motherwell
FC that away fans are treated equally by charging them the same
as the main stand rather than the Davie Cooper stand behind the
other goal has prepared another letter to pursue the matter. Motherwell
fans in the Davie Cooper stand are charged £16 compared
to the visiting fans £20. Also the Trades Description Act
may have been breached re the price advertised above the “Family
Gate” being not the price paid through the turnstile.
- As previously intimated, a sample of shareholders will be contacted
this week to gauge reaction to possible donation to/purchase by
the Trust of their holdings or proxy vote.
- Contact still has to be made with Supporters Direct to inform
them of our new registered address.
- Fergus Caldwell is writing to David Murray of Rangers FC for
further clarification of concerns about the flag parade held at
Ibrox during halftime in our early December fixture. The reply
to Falkirk FC’s original contact was unsatisfactory and
the Trust write seeking guidance on 4 points:
1) Why Falkirk match was selected ahead of e.g. Celtic.
2) Were banners shown to officials of RFC beforehand for review?
3) Why the Stewards/Police were removed from the forefront of
the Falkirk support for the duration of the pageant.
4) Why RFC told the Stewards/Police one thing about the proposed
parade then changed procedure.
- The Supporters Liaison Reps made themselves known to stewards
and police at both Tynecastle and Tannadice and met a very positive
reception in both cases. Police and stewards agreed that any initiative
which defused potential problems was worthwhile, especially if
it saved them having to act in their official capacity arresting
or ejecting fans and subsequent paperwork.
- The club had explained the reasons in the “£15 for
name on seat plaques” but this had now started in batches
of 50, and has now been resolved
- A collection was held among Falkirk Supporters at Tannadice
and raised £230 for the Heather Hird Appeal. 15 year old
Dundee United supporter Heather was left paralysed following a
car crash on the way home from the Kilmarnock v Dundee Utd match
on Boxing Day. Steven Jackson and Stewart Wilson handed over the
cash to Heather’s father at half-time when ArabTrust also
handed over a cheque for £6000. Heather’s father was
visibly moved, and asked BairnsTrust to thank all Falkirk supporters
for their contributions and good wishes. A tannoy announcement
- Dee4Life, the Dundee Trust had invited BairnsTrust members
to join them socially pre-match on Sunday at Dens Park. Due to
unforseen circumstances there was a late switch of venue to the
Dundee Social Club, but those who attended enjoyed the hospitality
of the largest Scottish football trust (3000+ members). Hopefully
we can forge similar valuable links with other trusts as the season
progresses. BairnsTrust ties were regarded enviously!
- Following dialogue with the Dundee Trust, the idea of a centre
circle flag was again raised as a means of raising money by sponsorship.
Falkirk Football Club had been considering this and it was felt
that the Club should be consulted about it. If they have abandoned
the idea then the Trust could look into the viability of following
it up as a BairnsTrust project.
- Following the Boxing Day encounter at Tynecastle, a letter was
sent to Heart of Midlothian FC to congratulate them on their pricing
- All members should have received their AGM notification and
election nomination forms in Late December or early January. Deadline
for resolutions and nomination forms is 4pm on Friday 20th January.
- 1 new adult member had joined since last month.
- Only income from sales was £12 at the Brechin cup-tie.
- Late call-offs for the Christmas Dance had cost us for meals
already booked and reduced the profit to £120. £2050
had been banked but hire of hall and meals had yet to be paid
for (estimated at £250 and £1680 respectively).
- £121 was received from Sharesave payments in the two weeks
since last meeting until the end of December’s bank statement.
- The Boardroom Experience winner for the ICT game has confirmed
he will be able to attend.
- We need to consider treating the concession members differently
as the 65+ and under 16s are at present lumped together, but have
- A proposal to cease the Junior Bairns Membership may be voted
upon at the forthcoming AGM.
- Sharesave will be discussed at Thursdays Board meeting. Unless
there is flexibility over the number of shares required to be
purchased we may have to ask for a financial top-up or offer existing
Sharesavers a refund. One member has recently been refunded £99.
Of the current 23 Sharesavers paying Standing Orders 5 are not
current members and may be asked to join or withdraw as the scheme
was set up to cater for Trust members only.
- At 30th December the balance in the bank was £3,424.11
and £2,250 has been added in January but will be needed
for paying the 2 outstanding bills mentioned above. Sharesave
requirement could be £5,000.
- Dee4Life had been consulted on what they do about membership
certificates. Like BairnsTrust they had issued them initially
and had lapsed, creating gaps and now issue a laminated membership
- £70 had been paid out as Secretary’s expenses, mainly
incurred by the AGM notification as postages and envelopes.
- Draft annual accounts had been pulled together and were now
ready to pass on to the auditor for reconciliation. Figures look
worse this year mainly because DVD/Video expenses fell into this
financial year although some of the income from these was included
in the previous year’s figures.
- Expenditure on the numerous community activities undertaken
by the Trust in the financial period will be clearly highlighted
on the face of the Final accounts.
- The FSA return also needs to be made with the approach of the
Social Committee Report
- The Dinner Dance had 110 confirmed tickets, but some had not
been paid for and 18 people failed to show. This drastically reduced
the £700-£800 funds hoped to be raised. 120 meals
had been ordered to cover stewards, artistes etc and we have been
left facing a bill for many meals ordered for people who had promised
to attend. The Social Convenor feels let down by those who did
not turn up after reserving tickets. It was suggested that the
principle of money up front or no reserved places at functions
should be adopted.
- The Brockville Lounge Cabaret Nights mentioned last month will
go ahead on Friday 10th Feb, Fri 10th Mar, Fri 14th April and
Friday 5th May. Costs will be £25 per head and the format
will be a 2 course meal with tea or coffee in the Amarillo Bar
followed by a move to the Brockville Lounge for the entertainment
from 10pm until 1am. Details of the high class acts are already
being advertised in the Amarillo Bar Bistro and posters/leaflets
will appear on the concourse at the ICT home game.
BairnsTrust will receive half the ticket profit (after costs have
been deducted) and the proceeds from the interval raffle (to be
run by Trust members). Drew Norloch will donate a hospitality
package as a prize and Jimmy Black has kindly offered to underwrite
any losses suffered by BairnsTrust in the unlikely event that
such circumstances somehow arise.
- A 60’s Night & Beatles Tribute will be held in the
Castings on Friday 24th February 2006. Cost £10 including
buffet. Tickets available at the BairnsTrust table on Saturday
before the ICT match. Tickets will be put on sale at the Steeple
Box Office as a trial to gauge wider response.
- Referees Night Due to unavailability of all the proposed referees,
event still to be fixed with a date late Feb or early March, probably
in the warm-up area at the stadium.
- Quiz Night will hopefully be organised for the Brockville Lounge
- Meet the Manager Evening A suggestion had been received that
the Trust could organise an open forum meeting where the Manager
could answer questions put to him by the fans. This will be brought
up at Saturday’s meeting with George Craig to see if it
- Spot-the-Team Cards It was suggested that if members who attended
meetings could take away a spot-the-team card and sell one a month,
a healthy income could be generated for the Trust.
Board Members Report
A short report appears on the website. Much of the last meeting
involved discussion with the Manager about his signing targets
and as such has to remain confidential. The next meeting is on
Thursday 19th January.
There had been no Saturday meeting since the Trust December meeting
since the Dunfermline game was an early kick off and the Scottish
Cup game v Brechin was unsuitable. Points were put forward for
raising at the meeting on Saturday 21st January as follows:
Meet the Manager evening
Pricing for Scottish Cup matches
Dundee United prices (home flat rate £18 ? v £21 &
£19 for visitors)
Dundee United pie shop overcharging – till registering different
from the advertised wall price list. Trades Description Act issue?
Email from disgruntled member raising various points (members
identity will be kept confidential).
Another traffic survey is due for this Saturday – volunteers
required. Trust members on email have since been contacted for
their help. This information is apparently required before any
planning application can be sought for future expansion at the
The Former Players Association
M McIntyre and J Gardiner have agreed to take this forward.
The Secretary will liaise with them and pass on information and
links to other similar groups. It is hoped that we can come up
with a format and remit by the February meeting which can be presented
and approved, after which a letter can be drafted and sent to
all former players, using the contact details held by the club.
Andy Lawrie Testimonial
More details will be issued after the next meeting. Proposed
venue is holding two dates and agencies have been asked for prices
and availability on some 20-30 speakers.
Boardroom Experience Draw
For the Ross County and Hibernian games members whose names were
drawn previously but could not take up the offer will be given
a second chance. They will be contacted by the Treasurer in due
All members should have received the AGM notification etc in late
The AGM is set for Mon 20/03/06. Nominations and Resolutions to
be delivered to BT Electioneer Sandy Monfries by Fri 20/01/06.
A 250-word (max) election statement should accompany completed
Nomination forms for the post of Supporter/Director. Membership
of BairnsTrust at 25/12/05 is a condition of eligibility for election.
A ballot will be organised if there are more candidates than places
available and details will be posted on the Trust website.
The next meeting of BairnsTrust will be at 7.30pm on Monday 20th
February 2006 at the Falkirk Community Stadium. The Secretary
will make the required booking, and look into block booking the
room for the third Monday of the month for the whole year.